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I Love Cougars

The Beauty of Older Women By David Wygant

I’ve been asked to come clean.

I’m hanging out with Khiem, Tony and Rey. As we’re walking down the beach right now, we’re taking Daphne – Coach Daphne, of course – we’re walking down the beach in Marina del Ray, and it’s about sunset. So we’re just kind of talking about women, and what type of women I like to date. I never really talk about myself on the blog – well, only sometimes. Recently I’ve been talking a little bit about myself. But what type of woman do I like to date?

I’ll just tell you straight out: if she’s under the age of 30, I’m not really that interested. I’m not interested for a few reasons. For one, I don’t really want to relive my dramatic twenties. No offense – I have friends in their twenties, I have lots of people I work with in their twenties, and I love them dearly – but I really just don’t want to relive my twenties.

It’s not that I didn’t enjoy my twenties. There were a lot of interesting moments during that decade, and moments of real growth, but I like a woman who is more – and we’ll get to this debatable topic in a second – I like a woman who is more grounded.

I like someone who is very balanced. They have a balance between their career and their passions. I’m interested in a woman who has spent a lot of time basically working on herself. A woman who has taken the time to get to know herself, and who has taken the time to really explore herself – mentally, sexually, emotionally and intellectually.

And really, this is what you are doing throughout your twenties. You’re spending your twenties exploring yourself emotionally, intellectually, sexually, and in terms of your career. You’re doing everything in your twenties.

That’s the great thing about this decade of your life. You are spending that time getting to know who you are and what you are all about. You’re defining your identity.

So when a woman is defining her identity, leave her alone and let her do that! It’s funny, because I know a lot of guys who are my age and love dating these younger women. I just have no patience for them. It’s not that I don’t like them, or that I wouldn’t be friends with them – I just don’t want to date them. I’d rather spend my time with somebody who knows who they are, about their identity, and what they are all about.

But we’re all different. Everybody is looking for something different. Khiem, who is in his twenties, dates women in their twenties. But he had an interesting emotional experience with an older woman over the weekend, and I want him to describe the difference.

Khiem: Basically, I went out this weekend with two girls as friends, not as dates. One of the women was in her forties, married, and the other one is in her mid-twenties and single. We all enjoyed each others’ company, but I ended up talking to the woman in her forties much more because she was much more self-assured.

She could speak well, she could relate to me better. I would try to bring the conversation back to the woman in her twenties as well, but she was just shyer. She was very cute, very petite, but there was something that was blocking her from really opening up.

The interesting thing for me was that while I know they both enjoyed their time with me – I took them out and showed them a great time, we had great conversations, so there’s no issue there, but after the weekend, the married woman in her forties called me to thank me for a great time. She told me how she wanted to do it again.

It was unexpected – I was taking them out because they were my friends, not because I expected anything, but she was willing to show appreciation. A lot of times, younger women don’t know how to do this. They are not secure enough in themselves to show appreciation to the men in their lives.

David: Well, and younger women also don’t really know exactly what they want yet, so they are really still sampling. A lot of them still have their expectations as well, so they don’t know when to give back or make the call. They don’t know how to reciprocate.

I hate to say this, and women in your twenties, don’t get your panties in a knot, but a lot of younger women are takers. A lot of younger guys are takers as well. They are both takers, which is fine, because at that phase of your life, you are a taker. You are learning exactly who you are. When you are learning about who you are, you’re taking things from people: experiences and other things. That’s what you’re about at that stage of your life.

Now Tony is 29, and he’s on the cusp of coming out of his twenties. What are you more attracted to now?

Tony: I would say older women – for relationships. For flings, younger women are alright, but as Khiem described, it’s difficult to have good conversations, open communication, or genuine reciprocation and sharing with younger women. I shouldn’t say you can’t – there are younger women that are exceptions. But my better experiences have been with women in their mid-thirties – even up to 40.

David: Because they are more aware sexually, and emotionally. And there are no games!

Tony: Exactly. And they appreciate guys who know what they want, and express it openly. They don’t have as many hang-ups.

Khiem: There’s a girl that I’m seeing right now in her mid-twenties, and I love helping her explore her sexuality. At the same time, I know that there are a lot of guys that don’t know how to do that. They are just into bam-bam-bam, that’s it. It takes a certain kind of man or woman to really explore that.

Tony: The cool thing with a younger woman is that you can help steward them…

Khiem: Yes, you can mold them.

Tony: And guide them, and lead them through experiences that guys their age wouldn’t be able to do. I think that’s why they appreciate older men.

David: I was always into very long sex sessions. I was never a jackrabbit minuteman. The first time I had sex I think I lost it in about three and a half seconds, but since then I’ve always been about controlling it and giving women a great experience.

I’ve never been sexually turned on unless I can really play with a woman – unless I can really give her a great experience. To me, that whole connection is really important.

But it’s so funny because I remember when I was in my twenties and the sexual experiences I had with women were just annoying. It was so inconsistent. One day they would be sexually present and have a great time, and the next night you’d be begging for sex.

Women in their twenties are still dealing with a lot of the Catholic guilt that we were talking about earlier, or upbringing stuff – they’re not yet comfortable with their bodies, and they are still comparing themselves to their friends. They aren’t yet in love with themselves because they don’t know themselves yet. We’ll talk about the Catholic guilt topic another day, because that is a HUGE subject that we get a lot of emails about.

But when it comes down to dating, I think you are where you are. Assistant Rey is 18. So he’ll date anything – he’s so fucking horny all of the time, he’s checking out the woman in the car next to us now. Rey’s at the point where he’ll date anything – 18, 19, whatever.

Khiem: Rey is the Energizer Bunny: ready to go at any time.

David: And that’s the great thing about being 18. You can pump and dump 17 times a night.

So the bottom line is: enjoy the stage you are in. Embrace where you are, and enjoy it. Just be okay with the journey that you’re presently on – it’s YOUR journey. If you’re learning – learn. If you want to develop yourself deeper – go do the things that help you to develop yourself as a deeper person.

Take the time to spend time with you and learn to be with yourself.

Todays video is all about validation.
Time to validate yourself with real confidence and not a phone number from a woman who will never call you back!

30 Responses to “I Love Cougars”

  1. heck ya! i love graduating from intern.
    But speaking of Cougars, i have yet to have any experience with them yet.
    However, one of my buddy just caught his first cougar last night, and i know he will love to share his stories : )

  2. I gotta admit, I’m still into girls in their twenties. I’m just not really attracted to older women at this point.

    Even so, sometimes it’s a little disappointing. I was on the phone with a girl yesterday. She’s really sweet, but she lives in another town for the summer. As much as I enjoy her personality (and her killer looks), I was a kinda let down during our conversation.

    We were talking about our interests, and I was sharing the kinds of things I enjoy doing. Eventually I realized I was dominating the conversation, so I stopped and asked about her interests.

    …. Silence…..

    Eventually she came back with “um, I dunno. I guess I’m kinda average. I like hanging out with my friends, and blah blah blah.”
    I told her there’s nothing wrong with enjoying the simple pleasures of life, but I couldn’t help feeling a little let down. What makes her get up in the morning?

    On the flip side, the great thing about dating a younger girl is that I can show her things. I can take her to places she’s never been before, and she appreciates the new experiences I can give her.

    Older women have been there and done that, so they’re interestes and personalities are developed, but there’s no new adventures and memories for us to make.

    – Patrick

  3. First off, congrats to Rey and his new fancy job title! You deserve it man.

    As for the whole dating girls of different ages thing… I’m turning 22 next month and I still prefer them to be in their twenties. Granted older women are indeed much more mature, experienced, and emotionally stable… but it just feels too much like I’d be dating my aunt =/

    Maybe if I find a cougar I really like, that’ll change. But for now, I’m happy with the rugrats :)

  4. I honestly want to send this article to almost all the girls I know right now (I’m 22). How can we let girls know about these things without offending them?!

  5. Rey's Buddy July 30, 2008 at 1:54 pm 5

    After taking the boot camp (I’m in my early twenties), I’ve been doing a lot of hard work on myself to become a powerfully attractive man like David and Khiem teach. However, as a person who has had sex few times in my life, I had the unexpected pleasure of sleeping with a cougar (who was 46) last night.

    From the moment I saw her in the lobby of a hotel in downtown LA, I could tell she was very hungry for me. Granted, she was a bit tipsy… but man did she ooze of sensual energy. I don’t know how… but within minutes of meeting her, we shared the most amazing, sensual kiss of my entire life.

    Maybe girls my age don’t know how to kiss passionately yet… I really dunno or maybe it was her sexual confidence that truly turned me on.

    Being young, I was ready to go right after the kiss. God I was horny. I told her immediately how good she made me feel and how badly she needed to come with me to my car. Funny thing is… I was so damn nervous!

    I remember walking really fast to the car b/c I didn’t want her to change her mind. Luckily, I had Khiem out with me that night so he kept her entertained a bit as we walked to the car. I couldn’t think straight! I felt like I lost 40 IQ points because I could barely form a sentence while walking.

    It was OK though. She didn’t seem deterred or phased one bit. Khiem drove her and I to her hotel. He left me with: if you need anything, just call me. And there I was left on my merry way… not knowing what to expect.

    Once we got into her room, she was a little hesitant. I guess she had second thoughts about me being in my early twenties when she was 46. But I guess that her concerns quickly dissipated when she told me to come here as we started making out.

    In our hot and sweaty fumble, I think I said with a smile: “You have a lot to teach me” That’s when we couldn’t help it anymore. I’ll leave you to imagine what ensued next.

    All I can say is that I was struck by how well she moved and how well she knew what to do to my body. She was obviously very in tune with her body. I haven’t felt aroused like this before.

    When she told me how much she was enjoying me, I got so much more turned on. She showed me things that an inexperienced guy like myself wouldn’t have known. She was very supportive and enjoyed teaching me what truly felt good to her.

    So I’m very grateful to her. I’m a young guy. I wasn’t afraid to let her know that. I’m sure I made her feel sexy for being able to “seduce” a young guy like me… but I’m happier with the knowledge she imparted on me.

    If you have the chance, don’t be afraid of cougars. They are your best sex instructors! ?

    Oh and for Khiem, thanks for the many tips and help getting there and back. I owe you one.

  6. WOAH, David (and the rest of your crew ;) what a deep and GREAT blog! By far, one of the best I’ve read here :D

    I turned 20 yesterday! 29th of july.. 1988 yes! I had this WEIRD feelings yesterday, that started to bug me when I was going to bed…
    Two friends of mine came by and we had a great time, eating cake and laughing :P . Now, let me tell you something, if you will, one of my friends is a girl/woman(when do you start calling us “women”?) :P in her twenties..she’s three years older than me, 23. And she’s a hardcore virgin!! Never been in a relationship, never had sex, heck, she’s never even touched herself!! That really depressed me, so about two days ago when we were going for our regular walk in the sun, i started (for the first time with HER) telling her about my own sexual experiences, and what i’ve learned from my past two relationships… and what she is missing out on, not being sexually aware of herself and her body! then it hit us both, she’s 23 and i just turned 20..and i was telling HER what she’s missing out on! life is funny..

    anyway, the feeling i had during my birthday was of feeling OLD! I still have a little of that feeling today.. i feel as if there’s SO much to do in this world, and that i could’ve achieved more before i turned 20! I know it sounds depressing, but rather it was a motivating feeling!! it’s just that I KNOW so well what I want out of life, that I feel resteless sometimes..
    I want to be a professor in American Literature, with a Ph.D, and hold lectures at universities all across the world. And I want to do that now! Haha.. :P

    I do enjoy my first day as a twenty – year – old.. but it feels.. old. aah, i feel as if NOW my life is really starting. I’ve learned sooo much about myself lately, that it’s kind of overwhelming me..

    You talk about being a taker.. Which really put a smile on my face, while I read it! It’s partly true, but it has to be that way I guess.. cause you need some experience and you have to grow so much before you are able to give from yourself.. but the funny part is that I feel like I have a lot to give, that’s why I’m resteless about my goals. I feel like I know myself right now, who I am and what I want and where I’ve been..yet I want to grab everything there is out there!!

    I think women in their twenties need to talk more, engage themselves more in conversations.. Not be so stuck up with stereotypes out there..
    This blog also made me realize another thing: I didn’t think guys thought like Khiem/Tony does in this blog..
    I thought guys were really “late in the day” when it comes to figuring out what they want with their lives etc., and that women are more aware of themselves when compared to a guy at the same age.. (any given age for both)

    Hmm.. I really, really like this blog. Cheers to being in your twenties! hehe

    :)

  7. JustMe,

    Happy birthday girl.

    Yeah, turning twenty can make you feel kinda old in some way. My friends gave me a freaking walking cane. Honestly! The man at the store had even asked them if he should saw a piece off… ‘That won’t be necessary.’ :p

    But I relate to so much of what you say in your colossal :) post today. Thank you for sharing – I feel very… missing the word here – at least not the only 20-year-old who is feeling restless to both grab everything that’s out there and give everything that’s in there!

    And we have a sea of time ahead of us :)
    I’m honestly so glad to be 20 while I’m at this point. What I were 30 right now? That’s another story. A horror probably!

    When do you start calling you ‘woman’? I think it was David who put to words the way I feel about it… I like a woman who still likes being a girl!!

  8. Hey Rey…

    Didn’t D tell you… you don’t catch cougars… COUGARS CATCH YOU!

    You know those new Chuck Norris jokes… just take those and put the word cougar in instead… like:

    “I just opened up a can of whoop ass… and a COUGAR jumped out…”

    Cougars screwing around with young men should be a ritual… kinda like when you turn 21, it’s now your obligation to buy younger people beer cause people did it for you…

    lol

  9. Oh, and happy birthday tomorrow Rey…

  10. lol thanks brad! except i won’t turn 21 for a while : )

  11. I kind of agree with you JUSTME. I am glad that you atleast know who you are and where are you going. Which patch are you going to take. I am 23, still looking for my own identity. I am about to graduate from University in december but still not sure what I wanna do. One of my great passion is to talk about girls and how to deal with them. I am so glad that finally I am able to tell the truth about myself and What I feel.

    When I shared a little bit about myself with david, and you guys, I swear I felt so relief. I thought FINALLYY!!! there is some body still out there who is willing to talk and listen to me of what I have to say. I never opened up myself as I did with David and told him everything about me. You know I have so much responsibilities in my life that sometimes I feel that AM I GOING TO FIND A WOMEN FOR A RELATIONSHIP. Thats why I finally made a decision that I am going to join a bootcamp in december in david.

    I wanna thank you guys for your support and advices, especially DAVID, KHIEM, AND REY. You guys really opening my eyes.

  12. Happy Birthday Rey!! And great synopsis of where women are in different parts of their lives. Its a great topic to explore if one is not too familiar with what the opposite sex thinks. Instead of worrying about myself or oneself, it helps to observe and focus on the women, and see what they are all about. This blog really helps at that.

  13. Is this why I’m 40 and getting more attention from 25-year-olds than I did when I was 25? I’ll talk to some of them, but if all you can think of to say is “hey sexy” I won’t stick around long.

  14. No problem Tariq! it’s my pleasure watching the stuff you write become more and more lively throughout these few weeks, and i look forward talking to you in person on a bootcamp : )

  15. Wow,
    I thought I was a little too old to be “training” for dates. I have been married had kids etc, but I felt like I missed out on all that date around, figure out who you are, etc. I was 35 when I got divorced and I felt like such a loser. I never really tried to go out and meet people. I mean I always liked men, but I usually dated whom approached me. It was only this last year that I realized that I really envy those girls who go out and make dates happen. Meeting people, casting glances, making chit chat, sorry that was NOT going to happen. And yet I was always in awe of those people who seemed to find dates, loves, etc. wherever they went and they took their time, could afford to be fussy and all. These were not always the “hot” chics as most people think they are. OR as my dad says…they won’t be the first ones picked when the lights come on.

    Anyways these seemingly average girls and guys for that matter had one thing over everyone, they knew how to connect with people and they were not afraid to do it. I LOVE THAT. I am now 36 and I want to be one of those women. Yes, David you are right…when you hit your thirties you have experience, you have more of a humility about yourself and others that you just don’t seem to have in your 20′s. It is as if you just want to slow down and enjoy the ride of life and/or make what you have better instead of trying to prove yourself. Does that make sense? I am ready as I said earlier to finish developing that part of me that goes out interacts with and attracts MEN. Without all the should I have said that…was that too pushy…what if I am not all that attractive blah, blah, blah. And yes guys the sex does get better…that is a different topic though.
    Melinda

  16. Haha, thanks Pete -> “Happy birthday girl”

    It’s good to know I can still call myself a girl.. My dad was like “happy birthday, honey” and I was like “thanks, dad.. Wow, I’m old now” He was like “no, you’re not old.. you’re a grown up now” :P
    How’s that for a transition?! ;)

    Melinda – “It is as if you just want to slow down and enjoy the ride of life and/or make what you have better instead of trying to prove yourself” That made VERY sense..
    But the ironic part is that twenty year olds are asked of all the time about where they want to go, about their goals in life etc. how’s that for trying to prove oneself?

  17. Tariq, I kind of always knew what I wanted to do, because I had such supportive and kind teachers at school.. I’m the passionate kind of student! I’ve always been into creative arts and literature..

    I know how you feel though, and it seems as if you are getting to know yourself better and better these days (i’ve read your posts)
    I have plenty of friends who are feeling what you’re feeling right now.

    I had to smile though, “one of my greatest passions is to talk about girls and how to deal with them” ;) hehe good luck!

  18. Well you know thats what I am trying to learn about how to deal with girls. I always have conversations with my friends about that. Every day when I pass by starbucks. I atleast see couple of women talking every single day. Its just I don’t have gutts to go and sit there and listen to their conversation. But from now on, I have to because I will never be able to accomplish and eliminate my fear unless I take this risk.

    By the way I LOVE to talk about girls. I can talk about girls and their details forever. I love this topic.

  19. I am setting my agenda right now and going step by step :-)

  20. haha, are you obsessed with girls Tariq? nah, just joking. ;)

    I have a question! it would be GREAT if anyone had an answer to that.. it’s a weird one..
    When a guy says he’s only had sex ONCE before, and then has all the control in bed, as in not coming too fast etc. Does that mean that he’s had plenty of sex before and is lying… or that he’s just been really good at.. you know, gaining that control by himself? (Masturbation)

    really out of topic here, but the pump and dump issue here got me thinking about that :P

    thanks!

  21. Tariq,

    I’m glad we could help you with the women stuff.

    In regards to knowing what you want to do, just realize that you still have plenty of time. When I graduated from college, I wasn’t quite sure what I wanted to do either. My family were mostly in the medical field and I didn’t want to do that. So I had a few jobs after college but I can’t say that any of them really inspired me in any meaningful way.

    Now, I believe I know what I want. It took me longer than your average guy perhaps… but now, i also have a much clearer vision of the future because i took my time.

    And for JustMe,

    I’m thankful to know what I want now. For a guy to “mature” and think the way Tony and I do…. the guy has to do a lot of self-work. Any guy who achieves a certain level of self-awareness can become a “superior man”.

  22. Khiem – I guess there are exceptions when it comes to guys as well..like you said, there are exceptions aside from twenty year old women who are still figuring out who they are etc.
    But one ought to be careful in using words like “superior”, it sounds as if your self – awareness is at the expense of someone else.. I agree with you, though.. Self – work is amazing! Your whole position changes :D

  23. LOL JustMe,

    I used the word “Superior” as a referenced to David Deida’s book “The Superior Man” where he talks about the essence of being a great man who understands masculine and feminine energy in the relationship.

    So put your concerns aside, superior does not mean self-awareness at the expense of the woman. It means “superior” compared to the “average” man.

  24. hahaha, i bet i got you laughing hard! damn, you got me there, Khiem!
    i haven’t even heard of that book, otherwise i would’ve gotten that reference!

    one little thing though – i was thinking at the expense of “someone else”, no emphasis on the gender :P

    oor perhaps i’ll just shut up now. (and go read that book of yours!)

  25. Khiem, that is one amazing book. I haven’t stopped reading and rereading it. And that’s the first time I reread something without losing interest.

    Just You, you being you I think you’ll love it and be warned for it will amplify your restlessness and make you very impatient…

  26. They may be cliché, but they fit quite nicely…
    - Style vs. Substance
    - Form FOLLOWS Function

    and yes, they’re metaphors not to be taken literally.

    Women in their 20s are “takers” because they can afford to be. When they can no longer afford to be, they often develop into very interesting women who have something to give in return.

  27. I need some advice from people.
    I know that the first thing you never do is lie to a girl, even if you’re trying to do a bad-boy thing with her, but in my case I really didn’t have a choice.

    Let me start from the beginning.
    I’m 17, just graduated High School, about to start college to major in Business. I have a job at Steak N Shake, and am going to soon start working the “10pm-7am” shifts.
    Pretty much all my friends like to dance, party, drink, or club.
    Yeah it’s not that great of a network, but whatever.
    So being 17, I can’t get in the clubs. The requirement is to be 18, (and 21 to drink, of course).
    So a couple months ago I acquired an ID from a friend who looks similar to me, and he’s 22. The clubs I got in no problem and I would occassionally buy drinks wherever. Last night, and Friday night, I went to a club armed with new guns (which I mostly learned from you guys and David).
    Friday, I was in the outside bar patio, socializing with random people about whatever for a little and the bartender strikes up a conversation with me. We talk about where we’re from and how she’s new to Flrodia and such. I put my phone in front of her chest and commanded her to give me her number to perhaps have a nice drink or coffee or something sometime as I liked her personality (& would like to get to know her better/or something else… Blah blah blah.) But she said she doesn’t give her number out like that blah blah blah, then said I can come back tomorrow on Saturday (which then on Saturday, I found out she had a kid 2 years old already… Single mother) and I smiled and said well thank you nice meeting you and shook her hand and took off.
    After that I went up to a girl, introduced myself with a few lines and such, gave her a kiss on the hand, and danced with her to a sad Bachata song (she was reluctant because she didn’t like the song [it's about a guy being a loser to a girl, not able to win her over. "El Perdedor by Aventura."] but I said I’d make it fun, which afterwards she said I did make it fun).
    Afterwards, I told her she can either give me her number to hook up on correct terms or to leave with me for a bite to eat (which was impossible I was driving for three of my girlfriends.) She said something how she was in the Air Force and is leaving Wednesday and as a result, has her phone turned off as it’s not needed if she’s leaving so soon. (Excuse or not, w/e…) So I was like okay nice meeting you thanks and she said to come back tomorrow on Saturday and she’ll be there. I told her well maybe, I’ll try to convince my friends to stop by since I already have plans, okay? :) Gave her a kiss on both cheeks and took off.

    So just tonight I went back to the club, said hi to the bartender and chatted a little, I flirted with her to the extent of saying she’s new to town and a new bartender I doubt she can make a good drink. (I also thought perhaps she only chatted with me to hustle me out of a tip, since she doesn’t get paid by the hour, rather only getting tips).
    Air Force girl wasn’t there and I was walking around the dance floor and some guy goes up to me like, hey man, wassup! So I slapped hands with him said yeah, what’s up? And he was like have you seen Air Force girl (I forgot her name.. at the moment, but at the time I knew who he was talking about), and so I said nahh I haven’t been looking for her, why don’t you call her, which he replied to that he doesn’t have her number. So I said well alright man take it easy I’ll see you later, exchanged names, another hand slap, and went on my way to another girl who was pretty cute and started asking her stuff like what do you look for in a guy and what do you have to offer? She didn’t answer the offer part, saying instead that the questions were making her nervous (but she was smiling all the while, and kept grabbing my hand which was outstretched palm up, in a questioning way). So I did a walk away, said oh it’s fine you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to nice meeting you, and gave her a nice kiss on the hand, and walked off. (Later I passed by her again I looked for a second if she would notice me or something but she didn’t so I w/e-ed it and walked by her again [which was lame. But I didn't want to do the whole "Enjoying yourself?... Having a good night?" because that's the only thing at the time I could come up with to talking to her about.])
    At the end of my night after I said goodbye to the bartender I saw this girl dancing alone with her girlfriend and some guy dancing. I went up to her…
    Me:What do you have to do for me to love you (It was supposed to be What do I have to do for you to love me, but I was a little tipsy, plus you couldn’t hear anyways so w/e.)
    Her:Hahahaha woww
    Me:Well my name’s Syd nice to meet you (grabs her hand). What’s your name?
    Her:Blah Blah!
    Me:What?!
    Her:Blahhhhhhhh
    Me:What????
    Her:Something something something
    Me:I’m sorry… What are you saying?
    Her:MY NAME’S (fake name=) Shaniqua.
    Me:Ohhhhhh nice to meet you!
    Her:Yeah! Haha
    She then turned around and we danced for like a good minute and her friends were all like Omg laughing and stuff and then I was doing some slow-mo moves and stuff which made her crack up (because not too many guys break it down slow. They usually just dance…. Left. Right. and so on. Me- Left (hold) right up left down right going down a couple inches and so.)
    I used to have really good faith in my dancing skills but somehow I didn’t dance for a month or so and I lost all confidence in my dancing. I’m still not TOO bad…. :

    So we talked again after that dance
    Me:So what do you look for in a guy
    Her:What???? What do you mean? Haha
    Me:Like personality, a good outlook on life, some really good looks… etc. (Yeah… Oops. I gave her the answer.)
    Her:I don’t really have a specific type (rare for Hispanic girls in my past experience)… It would have to be the personality.
    Her:How old are you
    (This is where I am fu*ked)
    Me:Well, how old are you??
    Her:Oh.. 20!
    Me:Well I’m 22 (I just COULDN’T say 17, not only that it’s illegal but wouldn’t she immediately be like… FU*K! Bye.)
    Her:OHhhhh cool!
    Me:So what do you have to offer a guy?
    Her:Well… I’m awesome!
    Me:That’s it?! :)
    Her:Yeah!!
    Me:Well… That IS a lot to offer! >:)
    (she didn’t catch the sarcasm but hey I forgive her I’m REALLY slow with sarcasm myself.)
    Her:You should get my number
    Me:Hm.. Alright sure (pulls out phone gives to her)
    I kinda grinned at my friend who was watching (which I think was a little too cocky she caught me doing the grin = )
    Me:Alright cool it was a pleasure meeting you
    (kiss both cheeks, and walk off no looking back)

    Sooo… If I have any errors in my ways I did things, please tell me (I know I messed up a lot but how could I improve?)
    Also, what am I to do? Call her?? Text her?? How am I supposed to tell her that I’m really 17 a freshmen in college and working at Steak N Shake
    (I decided if she asks me what I do I’ll play with her and just say I’m a Men’s Leg model for jean magazines or w/e and constantly avoid the question).

    So.. What should I do?!?!? :[[

    David… If you happen to read this, please e-mail me or leave a comment here or both, please! I also have no clue how to call or text her back about what and how to meet up with her..!

  28. Oh boys. As a quote end quote cougar and a professional, educated and financially secure woman, let me assure you we are NOT looking for young men who are arrogant enough, and silly enough to talk like this.

    We acutally enjoy the company of men in our league; clearly, most of you are boys.

  29. I have to say though, when I was in my twenties, I actually preferred the slightly older woman. I didn’t date at high school, because there wasn’t the kind of girls that inspired you to make that extra effort. Older women offer something young girls can’t. Having said that, I’ve never really dated younger women. Oddly, they’re a challenge now.

  30. David, you’re hot! (sorry I had to say it!!)

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