What is good about Barr’s approach is that it creates intrigue with the woman he likes, and it befriends all of her friends. What is also good is that it gives a direction to the interaction.

If done properly, Barr’s approach is quite good and almost flawless.

What is bad is that you don’t really need to do so much work to get the girl. What is also bad is that it doesn’t set up a real connection with the girl nor does it really tell you what the girl is about so it doesn’t give you any clues on what to do next when you want to setup the date.

By the end of Barr’s approach, the girl would be intrigued but she’s not invested in him in any way. As soon as the girl leave the bar, normal day life priorities might take over and she may not feel as inclined to return his calls.

If you understand what women get turned on by, there are a lot of things you can cut out of Barr’s approach.

First, he doesn’t need a time constraint. If you carry yourself in a powerful way and you commit to talking to someone, people don’t reject you. You also don’t need to “pretend” that you JUST want an opinion from them. You can go in, have fun with them, help them have fun… and connect on a more genuine level. All of this can be done in 5 min or less.

Approach them with confidence. When the girls can see that you are COMMITTED to talking to them, they don’t reject you.

Befriending all her friends is definitely a good move…. but being social with EVERYONE at the bar (including the bar staff) on the way to them is an even better move. You can create social proof. Women react to you based on how they see other women react to you. It creates intrigue as well as show them that you are friendly and approachable.

Having fun and helping them have fun shows that you are a likable guy and you have personality.

If time permits, you can stick around and get deeper with the group or if not, you can get the phone number simply based on the fact that they are fun.

From there, walking away is perfectly legitimate. It shows you aren’t needy. You enjoy them but you don’t need them. You probably got their numbers already so by giving them the bests 30 sec to 5 min of yourself, you make them want more of you. It’s appealing to their sense of intrigue and curiosity.

If you prefer to stick around, pulling the interested girl on the side is better. You can build a real connection and get to know her.

While you have her on the side, you can make her feel good about herself, you can show appreciation for who she is, and you can find out plenty of things about her that you can use to setup the date and create that serendipitous moment.

Obviously, what I just wrote can sound a lot like Barr’s approach but in a different order… but the point here is the focus of what David teaches is different.

You don’t need to pretend anything or to “manipulate” the social logistics. You don’t need pretexts either to get the girl. Even though Barr’s approach is quite good, you are coming from a place of… “I got to be seen as interesting to get the girl” whereas, the girls should be the one wondering if they are cool enough for you to stick around and that’s what David teaches.

Come in with confidence.
Talk to them like normal people. Show your personality vividly.
Have fun and help them have more fun because you are there. It shows that you are powerful and non-needy.
Walk away so they want more of you (with or without their numbers)

I don’t know what MM is. Can you explain it….. As far as the routine goes, its most definitely canned. I’m a big fan of Davids natural observational approach and I think its a great way to meet girls during the day. The blog was about “how to meet girls in bars”. The game is the same but the rules change. The girls are in groups and their defence shields are up. I do like to go to bars on the weekend with my friends guys/girls. If I see a cute girl I wont let the chance go. Yes its a canned routine, but its playfull and non threatening and it leaves the decision entirely in the girls hands.

As far as the ( neg ). A neg to me is a negative comment directed towards the girl I’m actually interested in.( Not target ) I dont like the word target. This routine is just to simply to let the girl know that she’s the one you’re actually interested in and in a non threatening way. That is if she picked up on what you were actually trying to do.

I like Davids buddy text message ” routine “. I haven’t tried it yet but I’m going to for sure someday.
Barr.

PS: Just figured out what MM was. Yes it is that method to a point and then switches to Davids walkaway bit……. Good stuff!

Your at a bar and you see a girl you want to meet in a group of 2 or 3. Walk up and introduce yourself to everybody. Once the introductions are out of the way tell them a funny story or a joke if you want. Hopefully they laugh. Once the laughing dies down ask them how they all know each other and if there’s a special reason that they’re all out on the town. Tell them it was nice meeting them and that you have to get back to your friends. But before you go say that you’d like to get their opinion on something….

Tell them that earlier in the day you were asked a question.

The question was, “Which was a better feeling to have, regretting something you had done or regretting something that you should have done?..” Tell them that personally you don’t have any regrets but if they had to pick one or the other, what would it be?

They think about it for a few seconds and they come to the same conclusion one way or the other or they have conflicting views.. They then ask me what I think to which I reply,

” It’s better to regret something that you have done…. Why?… Cos its better to do something and at least know what the outcome was than to not do anything and always wonder… What if?”

You then give them an example of what you mean by saying, ” Ok so there’s this guy in a bar and he sees a girl he wants to meet”. ( As you tell the story only make eye contact with the (friends) of the girl you’re interested in )….. Continue the story by saying, “Now the guy has 2 choices, either go up to her and say hi or stand back and do nothing. He decides to go up to her. All he wants to do is just go up say hi see what she’s like and look into her { eyes even if its just for a few seconds }”. ( When you deliver this part of the story, ignore her friends and look directly at the girl you’re into and pause for a split second… Not in a creepy way )… End the story by saying, ” the guy talks a little more with the group and in particular the girl he likes and eventually asks her for her number. In the end maybe he gets her number or not. If he doesn’t get the number he may regret going up for a bit but its definitely better than wondering what if?”

Tell them you got to get back to your friends but it was nice meeting them and as you turn to leave give your girl a nice smile.

If she’s smart she’ll pick up on what you were doing and she’ll come to you and you’ll get her number.

So I agree with David – its like you have to be at a higher level, so why not talk to more women during the day? or better yet, invite a woman you met during the day to go out with you at night.