I think I was more or less on the same page as you a few months or so ago until I took a BC!!

Unless you’re a completely cold, ruthless, logical human being, I reckon you’re way overthinking things through!

Yeah I can understand the basis of not directly facing a woman, and the neg etc, especially with particuarly good looking/snobbish women with MM theory, but you’re shooting yourself in the foot because you’re up in your head/not staying present until you become almost mechanical at what you’re learning (which for me, is a bad thing). Do you really want one of these women?

But I know the kind of women I really want to connect with are warmhearted, and I want to focus on what she’s saying i.e. listening!! rather than thinking, should I touch her for 5 seconds or 10? Am I facing her too directly? If you want to treat meeting people as a football game, then thats great, but I know I want to be myself and roll with it, and not change myself for other people.

I guess you could compare it to while you’re heading towards a touch down (or whatever you do in “football” : ) you’re constantly thinking about whats going on around you, and before you know it, the balls way down the other end of the pitch!

Which is what I’ve learnt most from DW, is to listen intenself, observe, use the personality thats inside you all along that people like you for, and to make everything fun. There are tonnes of other gems which you’ll no doubt find, but those things above are the things I’ve really understood and are completely compatible with me and who I am.

In regards to your last question, then yes and no. Obviously everyone wants to make a dime. But its also excellent advice wherever its coming from, you’re confusing yourself with tonnes of products, wasting your own time, and not living your life. If theres one particular, solid block you’re having, then thats great! Research it a little and find a solution and give it a go, if its right for you!

If you have any other questions, you’re welcome to email me peterwcox@hotmail.co.uk (or windows messenger etc). Hope I havent rambled too much

Pete

I was listening to a Cory Skyy podcast and he says that you should never stand face to face with a woman unless you’re about to hug them or kiss them. He says that you should face them on an angle to them so that you’re projecting more energy outwards. Apparently facing women directly and leaning in to them conveys to her and others that you are trying to qualify yourself to her nonverbally. But I’m hearing David saying that you should face them directly and lean into them.

Cory Skyy is apparently a genius who has helped thousands of men become naturals. But I just don’t know what advice is right or wrong, it’s just confusing me big time.

I also hear from pickup 101′s Lance Mason that you should initiate touch early on especially to start an interaction.

I started an interaction with a beautiful woman warm approach style in Target today. At the time it seemed completly inappropriate to touch her. She seemed like if I would have initiated touch I would have crepped her out big time.

I also hear from alot of other well-known dating gurus that you shouldn’t face a woman directly or lean into her during an interaction because it will be percieved that you’re taking too much interest in her too soon and trying to win her approval via approval seeking body language.

Im getting pretty confused by all the conflicting advice that i’m getting that it’s actually hurting my progress with women. Who do I believe and if im told to believe one person in particular is that just because he wants my money?

anyway, i am not a big touchy feeley guy either. I like to listen to a woman emotion, feel her soul, and feel every inch of her when the time is right!

I have met women who were very touchy feely with me, and I didn’t mind (ofcourse you mind say that’s because you are a guy?). I think Its nice and classy, as long as its natural.

I heard in some middle eastern culture guys kiss each other in the cheeks.

And last summer when I took a trip to Bangladesh, I noticed guys were holding hands, and putting their arms around each others shoulder. I made a quick judgment that they were gay, but I was wrong. They were friends, and guys are bit more touchy with each in some countries.

Again, it must feel right. Of course I stop at the customary kissing the cheeks (once on each one) way of greeting each other…that really throws ladies here for a loop:-)