Comments on: First Impressions http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/ Sex. Relationships. Dating. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:15:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Bella Beacher http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-34211 Bella Beacher Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:35:42 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-34211 Comfortabl y, the post is in reality the greatest topic on curing acne naturally. I fit in with your conclusions and will thirstily look forward to your upcoming updates. Just saying thanks will not just be sufficient, for the tremendous clarity in your writing. I will at once grab your rss feed to stay privy of any updates. Comfortabl y, the post is in reality the greatest topic on curing acne naturally. I fit in with your conclusions and will thirstily look forward to your upcoming updates. Just saying thanks will not just be sufficient, for the tremendous clarity in your writing. I will at once grab your rss feed to stay privy of any updates.

]]> By: Jack http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-25253 Jack Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:36:34 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-25253 Since height is the predominant topic of this discussion, and since John B brought up leg lengthening, what is the typical reaction of women towards a man who has undergone such a procedure or any other plastic surgery that was for appearance sake? Since height is the predominant topic of this discussion, and since John B brought up leg lengthening, what is the typical reaction of women towards a man who has undergone such a procedure or any other plastic surgery that was for appearance sake?

]]> By: Michael http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24636 Michael Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:17:23 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24636 Well, first off, the whole issue with height is an important subject. It matters a great deal to women, so let's not kid ourselves. Me, on other hand, probably need to contact David for some help. I'm built more or less like an NFL QB, 6'4, 220lb with an athletic built, and yet somehow I'm invisible to women. I can't get a date to save my life. Well, first off, the whole issue with height is an important subject. It matters a great deal to women, so let’s not kid ourselves.

Me, on other hand, probably need to contact David for some help. I’m built more or less like an NFL QB, 6’4, 220lb with an athletic built, and yet somehow I’m invisible to women. I can’t get a date to save my life.

]]> By: Kelso http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24553 Kelso Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:17:38 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24553 There are a number of people in the community that dispute much of the Game. Barry Kirkey's (Extramask in the book) radio show rips the daylights out of Neil and there are guys like Stephen Nash (Playboy LA in the book) that do not look on the book kindly. Tyler Durden is made out to be an ass when he is probably 100X the PUA Neil ever was. Dont forget, Neil Strauss is a writer for Rolling Stone and with some of the game he learned he used that as leverage for his pickups. I have read the Game, Rules of the Game, three major bootcamps, Magic Bullets, studied RSD, Juggler, Practical Pickup, purchase 90% of Wygants programs, had consults with several top guys, - I have been at this for a few years now and been around and no all about push pull, teasing, conversation skills, ect... My conclusion is this - yes, some guys do succeed and some guys do not. Its like any other "sport" (they do call it game do they not?), art or act of competence - there will be the top percent that it works for....however we are talking about the common man here and my conclusion is that likes go with likes - 7's go with 7's, 10's with 10's, rich with rich - why? commonalities and social value and they do weigh heavy.....I just had a date I met thru Chemistry.com who is my height on Sunday. She was wearing heels so she was 2 to 3 inches taller. We had a great time (we had talked on the phone a couple of times and had her laughing quite a bit) but when she met me - she told me the inevitable - this cant work out- you are shorter than me and it would bother me. No lie.....I know, think abundance but this is like the 7th time in the last 18 months this has happened...so much for open minded women....no bootcamp or training can really over come that...but if you are a 6'2 whining guy like Dave you can say "hell it would be great to be shorter but you know no women have rejected me due to my height - this is really funny stuff"...what the hell? I really do think the community tells untruths - I think if they actually admitted that looks (hair, height,ect) did count - they would be out of business. Its a money making thing for gosh sakes. Women do go out looking for a man with a large confidence - rather a large something else....its the truth.... Hell, if humor was so important (as every woman claims but then date the jerk or the boring guy with money) then women would have posters of Danny Devito and Kevin James in their cubicles at work instead of partially nude fireman or John Stamos.... By the way Neil is not married (I just heard him talking about his current life on an interview) and he did not marry Lisa his girlfriend at the end of the book - she left him for some 6ft. good looking British singer (its not Robbie Williams but somebody like him I think)...... There are a number of people in the community that dispute much of the Game. Barry Kirkey’s (Extramask in the book) radio show rips the daylights out of Neil and there are guys like Stephen Nash (Playboy LA in the book) that do not look on the book kindly. Tyler Durden is made out to be an ass when he is probably 100X the PUA Neil ever was. Dont forget, Neil Strauss is a writer for Rolling Stone and with some of the game he learned he used that as leverage for his pickups.

I have read the Game, Rules of the Game, three major bootcamps, Magic Bullets, studied RSD, Juggler, Practical Pickup, purchase 90% of Wygants programs, had consults with several top guys, – I have been at this for a few years now and been around and no all about push pull, teasing, conversation skills, ect…

My conclusion is this – yes, some guys do succeed and some guys do not. Its like any other “sport” (they do call it game do they not?), art or act of competence – there will be the top percent that it works for….however we are talking about the common man here and my conclusion is that likes go with likes – 7′s go with 7′s, 10′s with 10′s, rich with rich – why? commonalities and social value and they do weigh heavy…..I just had a date I met thru Chemistry.com who is my height on Sunday. She was wearing heels so she was 2 to 3 inches taller. We had a great time (we had talked on the phone a couple of times and had her laughing quite a bit) but when she met me – she told me the inevitable – this cant work out- you are shorter than me and it would bother me. No lie…..I know, think abundance but this is like the 7th time in the last 18 months this has happened…so much for open minded women….no bootcamp or training can really over come that…but if you are a 6’2 whining guy like Dave you can say “hell it would be great to be shorter but you know no women have rejected me due to my height – this is really funny stuff”…what the hell?

I really do think the community tells untruths – I think if they actually admitted that looks (hair, height,ect) did count – they would be out of business. Its a money making thing for gosh sakes. Women do go out looking for a man with a large confidence – rather a large something else….its the truth….

Hell, if humor was so important (as every woman claims but then date the jerk or the boring guy with money) then women would have posters of Danny Devito and Kevin James in their cubicles at work instead of partially nude fireman or John Stamos….

By the way Neil is not married (I just heard him talking about his current life on an interview) and he did not marry Lisa his girlfriend at the end of the book – she left him for some 6ft. good looking British singer (its not Robbie Williams but somebody like him I think)……

]]> By: John B http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24549 John B Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:14:46 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24549 I was not trying to persuade people to become pickup artists. I have not read Rules of the Game, did not know it existed, but will check it out. As Neil mentioned in The Game, it turns out that one-night stands is not what he really what he wanted. He wanted and eventually found confidence and a relationship with depth (and damn his wife is hot). Point was, a short and probably average attractive or below average attractive guy was able to hook up with more attractive women than taller and better looking men. I have not checked out your website actually, I'll look it over. I was not trying to persuade people to become pickup artists. I have not read Rules of the Game, did not know it existed, but will check it out. As Neil mentioned in The Game, it turns out that one-night stands is not what he really what he wanted. He wanted and eventually found confidence and a relationship with depth (and damn his wife is hot). Point was, a short and probably average attractive or below average attractive guy was able to hook up with more attractive women than taller and better looking men.

I have not checked out your website actually, I’ll look it over.

]]> By: Khiem (DW Coach) http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24545 Khiem (DW Coach) Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:47:10 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24545 John, If you've read the game. Did you really read the last chapter when Neil talks about how unfulfilled he is? If you like Neil Strauss so much, did you read his second book called "The Rules of the Game"? What kind of women did he sleep with? A grandma? Some almost underage girls? It's one thing to sleep with a lot of women... but it's another thing to go after women you feel are of quality to your life. If you JUST want to sleep around and become a Pickup Artist, by all means, you should only listen to Neil. David and I have met him and he's a very warm and friendly guy. But that's not what we teach here. We teach you how to truly build core confidence to attract the things you want in life. We teach you how to really become a man of purpose and intent, how to truly own up to the things you want for yourself... which therefore translates in the way you interact with women. Can the things we teach be used to simply pickup women? Sure! But if that's the only purpose you find in our teachings, then you missed our point. John,

If you’ve read the game. Did you really read the last chapter when Neil talks about how unfulfilled he is?
If you like Neil Strauss so much, did you read his second book called “The Rules of the Game”?

What kind of women did he sleep with? A grandma? Some almost underage girls?

It’s one thing to sleep with a lot of women… but it’s another thing to go after women you feel are of quality to your life.

If you JUST want to sleep around and become a Pickup Artist, by all means, you should only listen to Neil. David and I have met him and he’s a very warm and friendly guy.

But that’s not what we teach here. We teach you how to truly build core confidence to attract the things you want in life. We teach you how to really become a man of purpose and intent, how to truly own up to the things you want for yourself… which therefore translates in the way you interact with women.

Can the things we teach be used to simply pickup women? Sure! But if that’s the only purpose you find in our teachings, then you missed our point.

]]> By: John B http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24543 John B Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:07:20 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24543 Read the book called "The Game" by Neil Strauss. Neil has slept with more women than any other guy on this forum and he's considered to be the greatest pick-up artist ever. He's only 5'6" and not extremely good looking (although he changed his looks to enhance his appearance). There's a lot of AFC's on this forum. At 5'7", I definitely wish I was taller, ideally somewhere between 6'0" and 6'2" ideally, but I would take any extra inch I could get. If you really want to be taller, you can, it's called leg lengthening and it involves breaking both of your legs and spending about 5 months in a Chinese hospital. I looked into it and would do it if the procedure was not so painful, scarring, and scary. Also, regarding the match.com experiment, did you wink at the same girls? Probably not as at least some would have recognized you by the second, third, fourth, etc. attempts. A better experiment would be to simply post your same exact profile for 1 week in 4 different cities of similar population. Just post the profile and don't wink anyone (because usually people fill out profiles and never bother to return after a few days). Anyway, I listed my height as 5'7" and 6'0" and only got about 3 winks in both cases...mostly from older women. I am 25 FYI. Read the book called “The Game” by Neil Strauss. Neil has slept with more women than any other guy on this forum and he’s considered to be the greatest pick-up artist ever. He’s only 5’6″ and not extremely good looking (although he changed his looks to enhance his appearance). There’s a lot of AFC’s on this forum. At 5’7″, I definitely wish I was taller, ideally somewhere between 6’0″ and 6’2″ ideally, but I would take any extra inch I could get. If you really want to be taller, you can, it’s called leg lengthening and it involves breaking both of your legs and spending about 5 months in a Chinese hospital. I looked into it and would do it if the procedure was not so painful, scarring, and scary. Also, regarding the match.com experiment, did you wink at the same girls? Probably not as at least some would have recognized you by the second, third, fourth, etc. attempts. A better experiment would be to simply post your same exact profile for 1 week in 4 different cities of similar population. Just post the profile and don’t wink anyone (because usually people fill out profiles and never bother to return after a few days). Anyway, I listed my height as 5’7″ and 6’0″ and only got about 3 winks in both cases…mostly from older women. I am 25 FYI.

]]> By: Khiem (DW Coach) http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24539 Khiem (DW Coach) Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:39:41 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24539 On paper, women always go by statistics... so on paper, women do care about height and other "facts". But in real life, when you meet someone, you are a lot more forgiving of who they are. First impressions do count in the sense that people try to "box you in" based on first impressions... but when it comes down to actual attraction, first impressions don't ALWAYS matter. If someone knows how to take advantage of first impressions, great! But I've also seen plenty of people learn to LOVE each other over time. That's because... love has an emotional component... and that component is only developed through a connection which is not based on looks. On paper, women always go by statistics… so on paper, women do care about height and other “facts”.

But in real life, when you meet someone, you are a lot more forgiving of who they are. First impressions do count in the sense that people try to “box you in” based on first impressions… but when it comes down to actual attraction, first impressions don’t ALWAYS matter.

If someone knows how to take advantage of first impressions, great! But I’ve also seen plenty of people learn to LOVE each other over time. That’s because… love has an emotional component… and that component is only developed through a connection which is not based on looks.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24530 Jeff Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:49:40 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24530 Kelso, I have to disagree with you , without a doubt in my mind the most important attraction trigger is CONFIDENCE !! I think being tall has it's advantages... making it easier to meet women initially,but the chemistry has to be there also. Confidence comes from knowing you have something of value , something that all women seek in a man.... and it has nothing to do with the size of your.... ( body, bank account, or member), it's whats in your heart. David teaches how to work on yourself ,to become that kind of man. Kelso, read the next line in those women's profiles. The one that says they're looking for confidence, and a sense of humor. I like the idea of your experiment , only next time(instead of sending winks) you could try more personable responses based on something you liked or related to ,as you read their profiles.you might find that the numbers would be less favourable to the those who are less vertically challenged. I'm considerably shorter than you Kelso at 5'4" . Do yourself a favor and try not to let the height issue get in your way. I've done all I can to leave each and every woman craving more of us short guys. You should get out there and do the same. Kelso,
I have to disagree with you , without a doubt in my mind the most important attraction trigger is CONFIDENCE !!
I think being tall has it’s advantages… making it easier to meet women initially,but the chemistry has to be there also.
Confidence comes from knowing you have something of value , something that all women seek in a man…. and it has nothing to do with the size of your…. ( body, bank account, or member), it’s whats in your heart.
David teaches how to work on yourself ,to become that kind of man.

Kelso, read the next line in those women’s profiles. The one that says they’re looking for confidence, and a sense of humor.
I like the idea of your experiment , only next time(instead of sending winks) you could try more personable responses based on something you liked or related to ,as you read their profiles.you might find that the numbers would be less favourable to the those who are less vertically challenged.
I’m considerably shorter than you Kelso at 5’4″ . Do yourself a favor and try not to let the height issue get in your way. I’ve done all I can to leave each and every woman craving more of us short guys. You should get out there and do the same.

]]> By: john http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/first-impressions/1339/#comment-24529 john Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:30:55 +0000 http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/?p=1339#comment-24529 Ok, i can understand a woman getting past height if a guy is still good looking, but what about being really ugly? I am 5'7, have a funny looking head, big nose, huge ears, and cope with a lifelong acne problem. my face is full of permanent scars. I see the way women look at me. If a woman happens to make eye contact with me, they first look disgusted, then quickly look away. I work out, and dress nice and take care of myself, but I was just born ugly. I can't fix it. No one could ever love me. I will be alone for the rest of my life, and have just had to come to grips with that. And don't tell me about self esteem. Actually, i don't think i look that bad. But i know i do. Because i see the way women look at me. I'm 36 years old and have not had a date in over 10 years, because women can't even stand to make eye contact with me. So yeah, first impressions matter. Ok, i can understand a woman getting past height if a guy is still good looking, but what about being really ugly? I am 5’7, have a funny looking head, big nose, huge ears, and cope with a lifelong acne problem. my face is full of permanent scars. I see the way women look at me. If a woman happens to make eye contact with me, they first look disgusted, then quickly look away. I work out, and dress nice and take care of myself, but I was just born ugly. I can’t fix it. No one could ever love me. I will be alone for the rest of my life, and have just had to come to grips with that. And don’t tell me about self esteem. Actually, i don’t think i look that bad. But i know i do. Because i see the way women look at me. I’m 36 years old and have not had a date in over 10 years, because women can’t even stand to make eye contact with me. So yeah, first impressions matter.

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