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	<description>Sex. Relationships. Dating. That&#039;s what I&#039;m talkin&#039; &#039;bout.</description>
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		<title>By: Coby</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/dont-be-a-pickup-artist/341/#comment-10620</link>
		<dc:creator>Coby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - One hour on the phone with you would help, eh?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; One hour on the phone with you would help, eh?  <img src='http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/dont-be-a-pickup-artist/341/#comment-10541</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theresa
Thankyou for your kind, oh wait, HOT comments! If I were a girl I&#039;d probably blush ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa<br />
Thankyou for your kind, oh wait, HOT comments! If I were a girl I&#8217;d probably blush ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Mack Tight</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/dont-be-a-pickup-artist/341/#comment-10441</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack Tight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that you should use your real name when approaching women but I disagree with this when it comes to interacting on the internet.  There are millions of Sam&#039;s in this world and if you want to differentiate yourself from them for a message board username or for leaving comments you would have to include your last name.  This is a bad move in this day of age of Google.

Ten years ago I made a fan site for a cheesy movie and I included my real name on the site somewhere.  I had a job interview and had the potential  employer ask me about the site.

I call myself &quot;Mack Tight&quot;.  Maybe it is a silly nickname.  I am not trying to be &quot;phony&quot; or be arrogant.  I am simply protecting my identity using a fun and unique alias just as Mystery did.  Many of the pickup gurus who have names that sound real are actually using alias too.  If I was making enough money that I could be self-employed I wouldn&#039;t be concerned about using my real name but that is not the case at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that you should use your real name when approaching women but I disagree with this when it comes to interacting on the internet.  There are millions of Sam&#8217;s in this world and if you want to differentiate yourself from them for a message board username or for leaving comments you would have to include your last name.  This is a bad move in this day of age of Google.</p>
<p>Ten years ago I made a fan site for a cheesy movie and I included my real name on the site somewhere.  I had a job interview and had the potential  employer ask me about the site.</p>
<p>I call myself &#8220;Mack Tight&#8221;.  Maybe it is a silly nickname.  I am not trying to be &#8220;phony&#8221; or be arrogant.  I am simply protecting my identity using a fun and unique alias just as Mystery did.  Many of the pickup gurus who have names that sound real are actually using alias too.  If I was making enough money that I could be self-employed I wouldn&#8217;t be concerned about using my real name but that is not the case at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/dont-be-a-pickup-artist/341/#comment-10367</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David and Sam,

I am going to digress rather than continue, because I am not sure at this point if the fact that your response don&#039;t seem to be specifically related to the EXACT words I wrote, is a result or your not reading closely enough or my not writing clearly enough.  Either way I agree with what you both say for the most part, so we really have no difference worth disputing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David and Sam,</p>
<p>I am going to digress rather than continue, because I am not sure at this point if the fact that your response don&#8217;t seem to be specifically related to the EXACT words I wrote, is a result or your not reading closely enough or my not writing clearly enough.  Either way I agree with what you both say for the most part, so we really have no difference worth disputing</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam,
You convinced me .... not that I needed to be convinced :)
I echo David when I say, well written post.
Additionally, a well-spoken, self-aware man is HOT!  You&#039;re sizzlin&#039;, Baby!  Mmmmm .... yummy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,<br />
You convinced me &#8230;. not that I needed to be convinced <img src='http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I echo David when I say, well written post.<br />
Additionally, a well-spoken, self-aware man is HOT!  You&#8217;re sizzlin&#8217;, Baby!  Mmmmm &#8230;. yummy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wygant</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wygant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

That is great advice for Simon.

Simon you need to dial it back and gain that confidence.

The mind is a very powerful thing and right now you are thinking too much and not just reacting to what is going on.

The magazine woman is exactly what i am talking about.

If that is your favorite magazine you should have plenty to talk about with her. You need to start talking and stop thinking so much.

Anything interesting in the magazine.
You could have said that and if you said it with a smile and confidence the conversation would start rolling.

Its all the way you say things....with your voice tone and everything.

I cant begin to tell you that you need to look into some private coaching.

One hour with me on the phone will really help you out.

I also record all the coaching calls so you will be able to listen to what we discuss over and over till you can understand how simple i will make this for you.

As why i posted that video.....I want people to understand the powerful difference between being real and being a show.
Writing this blog is a passion for me and putting out great products and coaching as well.

I am glad you are here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>That is great advice for Simon.</p>
<p>Simon you need to dial it back and gain that confidence.</p>
<p>The mind is a very powerful thing and right now you are thinking too much and not just reacting to what is going on.</p>
<p>The magazine woman is exactly what i am talking about.</p>
<p>If that is your favorite magazine you should have plenty to talk about with her. You need to start talking and stop thinking so much.</p>
<p>Anything interesting in the magazine.<br />
You could have said that and if you said it with a smile and confidence the conversation would start rolling.</p>
<p>Its all the way you say things&#8230;.with your voice tone and everything.</p>
<p>I cant begin to tell you that you need to look into some private coaching.</p>
<p>One hour with me on the phone will really help you out.</p>
<p>I also record all the coaching calls so you will be able to listen to what we discuss over and over till you can understand how simple i will make this for you.</p>
<p>As why i posted that video&#8230;..I want people to understand the powerful difference between being real and being a show.<br />
Writing this blog is a passion for me and putting out great products and coaching as well.</p>
<p>I am glad you are here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon 
Regarding your response, I totally agree! However, the difference in our viewpoints is this; In order to learn these tactics as you call them, (which in reality are just plain old social skills), and achieve success in your social life, a person must feel good within themselves and have sufficient self esteem to make it all work. Not all people are instilled with self esteem and self assurance from childhood. Not all people have had easy lives where their sense of self worth has remained unscathed. Many people for one reason or another find social interaction very difficult to grasp. Now your typical PUA is going to feed you all manner of tricks and angles to get around these difficuties - TEMPORARILY. Yes you may fool the girl into thinking you&#039;re a legend bcos you put some pre-conceived deceptive tactic on her, but what then? Eventually she will discover the real person beneath the act, at which point it may be game over. Its a band-aid solution. 

David&#039;s &#039;tactics&#039; as I see them, (and I&#039;m not his spokesperson or anything, I&#039;m just voicing my opinion here)  are designed to assist the people who for one reason or another find conveying THEIR OWN thoughts and personal traits to other people very hard to do. Like drawing it out with a sponge. Its already there, but the social phobias and often just lack of knowledge about how to go about it, hold the person back. I see it as like the spark that ignites the fuel that has been lurking within.   

Let me tell you from years of experience dealing with my own fluctuating levels of confidence and self esteem, these things are NOT &quot;tactics or any other thing you care to call them.&quot; These things go right to the core of your existence, and when you have no confidence in yourself, you essentially have nothing. 

Forget picking up chicks and being the life of the party for a moment. Confidence and a belief in yourself affects everything you do, be it career, social life and personal life. I think you are on the right track in your post about learning the skills to approach people and start conversation, no one denies these things must be learned. But its the bit before that, before you even approach another person, when you&#039;re comfortable within yourself that needs to be addressed first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon<br />
Regarding your response, I totally agree! However, the difference in our viewpoints is this; In order to learn these tactics as you call them, (which in reality are just plain old social skills), and achieve success in your social life, a person must feel good within themselves and have sufficient self esteem to make it all work. Not all people are instilled with self esteem and self assurance from childhood. Not all people have had easy lives where their sense of self worth has remained unscathed. Many people for one reason or another find social interaction very difficult to grasp. Now your typical PUA is going to feed you all manner of tricks and angles to get around these difficuties &#8211; TEMPORARILY. Yes you may fool the girl into thinking you&#8217;re a legend bcos you put some pre-conceived deceptive tactic on her, but what then? Eventually she will discover the real person beneath the act, at which point it may be game over. Its a band-aid solution. </p>
<p>David&#8217;s &#8216;tactics&#8217; as I see them, (and I&#8217;m not his spokesperson or anything, I&#8217;m just voicing my opinion here)  are designed to assist the people who for one reason or another find conveying THEIR OWN thoughts and personal traits to other people very hard to do. Like drawing it out with a sponge. Its already there, but the social phobias and often just lack of knowledge about how to go about it, hold the person back. I see it as like the spark that ignites the fuel that has been lurking within.   </p>
<p>Let me tell you from years of experience dealing with my own fluctuating levels of confidence and self esteem, these things are NOT &#8220;tactics or any other thing you care to call them.&#8221; These things go right to the core of your existence, and when you have no confidence in yourself, you essentially have nothing. </p>
<p>Forget picking up chicks and being the life of the party for a moment. Confidence and a belief in yourself affects everything you do, be it career, social life and personal life. I think you are on the right track in your post about learning the skills to approach people and start conversation, no one denies these things must be learned. But its the bit before that, before you even approach another person, when you&#8217;re comfortable within yourself that needs to be addressed first.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, 

 what I am saying is this, and this is a difficult concept for me to convey at 6 in the morning from Maryland, since I am just waking up, but I will do my best.  What I am saying is that no one comes into life with any personality traits or socially learned means of communicating to anyone, whether of the opposite gender or not. They are all learned.  My basic premise, therefore, is going to be that all life is a method or tactic.  I know those words sound potentially bad, but hear me out.  Lets say you are a man who sees a woman in a bookstore who is reading, Foreign Policy Digest, your favorite magazine, and you would like to talk to her, what do you do?  Before you answer, suppose you had never learned that you could approach a total stranger in a bookstore and talk to them.  Your mother never told you this, your father never did, your 6th cousin 7 times removed from Senegal never did.  Nor did your super successful with the ladies best friend ever tell you.  You want to engage her in a conversation, but you need a way to do it.  Well from a purely analytical point of view, what do we need here.  We need tactics, which if you look up the definition, are simply means of accomplishing a task successfully.   So we call up David Wygant and tell him about the situation.  He and he gives you the tactic, which is to walk up to her, notice that she is reading your favorite magazine, and make a comment to her about it to open the conversation.  

And it is my take that this is all of what life is, at its fundamental core.  We have something we need to accomplish, so we learn a proper means to do it.  Even saying &quot;I love you&quot; is just a way to express our emotion and convey to another person how much you care about them.   Think about it, you don&#039;t tell them, they smell funny, or have poor posture.  You learned this particular means, long ago, for properly expressing this one very deep feeling.  It is a tactic.  It is not manipulative, it is real, it is genuine, but it is a learned way to accomplish something you otherwise would not know how to do.  

And too, being confident and all the things you mentioned in your post are tactics, we just prefer to call them other things, like exuding confidence and living life without fear of rejection.  

David,

I have never thought of you as part of the pickup community either, even though you have Heartwork, who is a PUA working for Vin Dicarlo and SargeNation, which is a pick up community website on your blog roll, and have appeared on  David DeAngelo and Pickup Podcast products.  
I simply call it &#039;game&#039; because I have not been clever enough to think of a  better word.  

I really enjoy your Mastery Series and the blog, I just wonder is a post like this doesn&#039;t have underlying it, just a bit of the marketing of differentiation  to try to avoid being lumped into the seduction community, since that community is not looked at so favorable by the mainstream?  It would be fine if it was, as while I am aware of the community, I don&#039;t consider myself a part, even though I do do some stuff in it.

So I have read your linked blogs and the one you attached and I am unsure what you where trying to get me to see.  I just see natural game from your perspective, which is completely congruent with the style of the schools I mentioned in my first post.  This is great.  The purpose seems to be to communicate and have fun with woman we meet just as those schools would have us do and to create social proof, as those schools would have us do as well.  Is there something I am missing? 

Oh, I agree and respect your decision not to use a nickname.  Whenever I have spoken to a person about Charisma Arts, I alway call the guy who started it Wayne Elise, not his nickname, Juggler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, </p>
<p> what I am saying is this, and this is a difficult concept for me to convey at 6 in the morning from Maryland, since I am just waking up, but I will do my best.  What I am saying is that no one comes into life with any personality traits or socially learned means of communicating to anyone, whether of the opposite gender or not. They are all learned.  My basic premise, therefore, is going to be that all life is a method or tactic.  I know those words sound potentially bad, but hear me out.  Lets say you are a man who sees a woman in a bookstore who is reading, Foreign Policy Digest, your favorite magazine, and you would like to talk to her, what do you do?  Before you answer, suppose you had never learned that you could approach a total stranger in a bookstore and talk to them.  Your mother never told you this, your father never did, your 6th cousin 7 times removed from Senegal never did.  Nor did your super successful with the ladies best friend ever tell you.  You want to engage her in a conversation, but you need a way to do it.  Well from a purely analytical point of view, what do we need here.  We need tactics, which if you look up the definition, are simply means of accomplishing a task successfully.   So we call up David Wygant and tell him about the situation.  He and he gives you the tactic, which is to walk up to her, notice that she is reading your favorite magazine, and make a comment to her about it to open the conversation.  </p>
<p>And it is my take that this is all of what life is, at its fundamental core.  We have something we need to accomplish, so we learn a proper means to do it.  Even saying &#8220;I love you&#8221; is just a way to express our emotion and convey to another person how much you care about them.   Think about it, you don&#8217;t tell them, they smell funny, or have poor posture.  You learned this particular means, long ago, for properly expressing this one very deep feeling.  It is a tactic.  It is not manipulative, it is real, it is genuine, but it is a learned way to accomplish something you otherwise would not know how to do.  </p>
<p>And too, being confident and all the things you mentioned in your post are tactics, we just prefer to call them other things, like exuding confidence and living life without fear of rejection.  </p>
<p>David,</p>
<p>I have never thought of you as part of the pickup community either, even though you have Heartwork, who is a PUA working for Vin Dicarlo and SargeNation, which is a pick up community website on your blog roll, and have appeared on  David DeAngelo and Pickup Podcast products.<br />
I simply call it &#8216;game&#8217; because I have not been clever enough to think of a  better word.  </p>
<p>I really enjoy your Mastery Series and the blog, I just wonder is a post like this doesn&#8217;t have underlying it, just a bit of the marketing of differentiation  to try to avoid being lumped into the seduction community, since that community is not looked at so favorable by the mainstream?  It would be fine if it was, as while I am aware of the community, I don&#8217;t consider myself a part, even though I do do some stuff in it.</p>
<p>So I have read your linked blogs and the one you attached and I am unsure what you where trying to get me to see.  I just see natural game from your perspective, which is completely congruent with the style of the schools I mentioned in my first post.  This is great.  The purpose seems to be to communicate and have fun with woman we meet just as those schools would have us do and to create social proof, as those schools would have us do as well.  Is there something I am missing? </p>
<p>Oh, I agree and respect your decision not to use a nickname.  Whenever I have spoken to a person about Charisma Arts, I alway call the guy who started it Wayne Elise, not his nickname, Juggler.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David. I was actually just thinking &#039;jeez I ramble on a bit&#039;, I know I get a bit carried away sometimes, but good to know it makes sense to somebody other than me! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks David. I was actually just thinking &#8216;jeez I ramble on a bit&#8217;, I know I get a bit carried away sometimes, but good to know it makes sense to somebody other than me! <img src='http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Wygant</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wygant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

Another great post today........the comments keep getting deeper and deeper.
Thanks for your posts today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>Another great post today&#8230;&#8230;..the comments keep getting deeper and deeper.<br />
Thanks for your posts today.</p>
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